And yes, legacy may be a better term, but it's not perfect either. Legacy to me means "the ones who've been around a long time."
Does that apply to Fox @ 20ish years? If it's young enough to escape the "legacy" media then what about the modern sites that go along with the (traditional mainstream) news ... Huffpo, Vox, MSNBC, etc.
Part of me knows it's more accurate to simply call them "liberal news" outlets, but that doesn't work to a big chunk of people -- liberals, but not activists -- who don't yet understand how biased outlets have become. That language sends a signal to conservatives that I get it, but I also want to reach and convince those who will understand how the media is slanted if they take a strong look.
Which then often leads me back to "mainstream" because, they still really represent the bulk of the media outlets in print, cable, broadcast tv, and arguably much less so on the internet. They're not yet the "formerly mainstream" in reality ... but that's certainly my goal.
All said, I usually mix it up and haven't been smart enough to come up with the perfect term.
Just saw this, this evening... from Mike Huckabee-Might be a good name?
“The Regime Media”
Great column by Kurt Schlichter on what he calls “the regime media,” or all those Ivy League-educated, bubble-dwelling “journalists” who are terrified of the young radicals taking over their newsrooms. They long to return to some mythical golden age of responsible, objective journalism, which as Kurt points out, never existed because they were just biased in their own privileged liberal way as today’s hothead leftist punks, they were just better at hiding it.
Good morning Ken! Love your work & how honest & unbiased you are in your reporting. My eyes have been opened many times with the truths you share & how the record is corrected & set with each post. Very curious about a word you’ve chosen to use in this current article & hope to receive an explanation on the same. “Democracy” & “democratic” aren’t what I expected when reading of our election process being that we are technically a “Constitutional Republic”. I may just be confused in that I’m still, even at 56 years of age, learning about our beloved heritage as Americans. Could you clarify for me, please?
Thanks, Matthew! Some people get a little touchy on that wording, and I don't. I actually don't understand why they get touchy about it.
Yes, technically we're a democratic republic in that we elect representatives to make our laws, with a strict classification of "a democracy" being one where we somehow voted on every law ourselves.
Yet, as you'll see time and time again both by our founding fathers and in modern usage, the term "democracy" is a really a broader term differentiating a country where the people choose its leaders. I just popped "democracy" into a few dictionaries and it perfectly describes our government, often even specifying representative rule.
Websters: "a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
Actually, it is an internal party Civil War between the GOPe and the GOPm - establishment vs. MAGA. A Civil War in the sense that the 2 sides are at polar opposites and only one side is going to provide the leadership that our country and Western Civilization needs to survive.
The "politics as war" rhetoric has bothered me too, but the media didn't invent it. It originated with the MAGA wing of the Republican Party. To those folks, every deviation from Trumpian doctrine is an act of disloyalty and betrayal. When you see every policy disagreement as an existential battle against enemies set on undermining your core values, you're more likely to resort to apocalyptic rhetoric.
That mindset has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. The MAGA wing of the party is so bent on tearing down traditional institutions and vanquishing leftists and RINOs that they've embraced authoritarian extremism, resulting in a very real battle over whether America's founding political principles can endure.
So far, with the exception of January 6, that battle has been waged with words, not weapons. I pray it stays that way.
Oh for sure, people have been applying war metaphors to politics since time immemorial, and it always bugs me. My comment was referring to today's "Republican civil war" talk surrounding the 2024 presidential primary. I should have been more precise.
Agree with Mathew Schultz and would also stop using mainstream media. They are not mainstream. They are Legacy media at best!
Read my reply re: democracy above.
And yes, legacy may be a better term, but it's not perfect either. Legacy to me means "the ones who've been around a long time."
Does that apply to Fox @ 20ish years? If it's young enough to escape the "legacy" media then what about the modern sites that go along with the (traditional mainstream) news ... Huffpo, Vox, MSNBC, etc.
Part of me knows it's more accurate to simply call them "liberal news" outlets, but that doesn't work to a big chunk of people -- liberals, but not activists -- who don't yet understand how biased outlets have become. That language sends a signal to conservatives that I get it, but I also want to reach and convince those who will understand how the media is slanted if they take a strong look.
Which then often leads me back to "mainstream" because, they still really represent the bulk of the media outlets in print, cable, broadcast tv, and arguably much less so on the internet. They're not yet the "formerly mainstream" in reality ... but that's certainly my goal.
All said, I usually mix it up and haven't been smart enough to come up with the perfect term.
Just saw this, this evening... from Mike Huckabee-Might be a good name?
“The Regime Media”
Great column by Kurt Schlichter on what he calls “the regime media,” or all those Ivy League-educated, bubble-dwelling “journalists” who are terrified of the young radicals taking over their newsrooms. They long to return to some mythical golden age of responsible, objective journalism, which as Kurt points out, never existed because they were just biased in their own privileged liberal way as today’s hothead leftist punks, they were just better at hiding it.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2023/03/23/there-is-no-hope-for-the-regime-media-n2620971
Good morning Ken! Love your work & how honest & unbiased you are in your reporting. My eyes have been opened many times with the truths you share & how the record is corrected & set with each post. Very curious about a word you’ve chosen to use in this current article & hope to receive an explanation on the same. “Democracy” & “democratic” aren’t what I expected when reading of our election process being that we are technically a “Constitutional Republic”. I may just be confused in that I’m still, even at 56 years of age, learning about our beloved heritage as Americans. Could you clarify for me, please?
Thanks, Matthew! Some people get a little touchy on that wording, and I don't. I actually don't understand why they get touchy about it.
Yes, technically we're a democratic republic in that we elect representatives to make our laws, with a strict classification of "a democracy" being one where we somehow voted on every law ourselves.
Yet, as you'll see time and time again both by our founding fathers and in modern usage, the term "democracy" is a really a broader term differentiating a country where the people choose its leaders. I just popped "democracy" into a few dictionaries and it perfectly describes our government, often even specifying representative rule.
Websters: "a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
That works for me.
Thanks for your reply, Ken!
Tucker Carlson reported on media in the US: https://youtu.be/HBEw0NGH9fo
Actually, it is an internal party Civil War between the GOPe and the GOPm - establishment vs. MAGA. A Civil War in the sense that the 2 sides are at polar opposites and only one side is going to provide the leadership that our country and Western Civilization needs to survive.
The "politics as war" rhetoric has bothered me too, but the media didn't invent it. It originated with the MAGA wing of the Republican Party. To those folks, every deviation from Trumpian doctrine is an act of disloyalty and betrayal. When you see every policy disagreement as an existential battle against enemies set on undermining your core values, you're more likely to resort to apocalyptic rhetoric.
That mindset has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. The MAGA wing of the party is so bent on tearing down traditional institutions and vanquishing leftists and RINOs that they've embraced authoritarian extremism, resulting in a very real battle over whether America's founding political principles can endure.
So far, with the exception of January 6, that battle has been waged with words, not weapons. I pray it stays that way.
"Republicans are in civil war" has been a long-standing narrative of the MSM, far preceding Trump.
https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/mark-mellman/100292-the-republican-civil-war/
https://www.ft.com/content/6c9c2d7a-b317-11e2-b5a5-00144feabdc0
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republican-civil-war-between-imperialists-and-isolationists-has-deep-roots-and-big-implications_b_7524068
Oh for sure, people have been applying war metaphors to politics since time immemorial, and it always bugs me. My comment was referring to today's "Republican civil war" talk surrounding the 2024 presidential primary. I should have been more precise.
Im Tired of these "rigged" fake stories of civil war in the GOP
Yes ID the RNC DC Estd
ID RINOs
BUT Unite on other issues IE Trumps policies
Purge the RNC
NOT Fwd thinking
Wont adapt
Too bureaucrativc
& Dems WIN 2024
In my entire life, even when I ran political campaigns for a living, I rarely saw effectiveness or victories being driven by the RNC.
Even when Lee Atwater ran it, it was mainly a place for rich donors to get their kids jobs.
Thanks for the verification
RN is the Old Country Club mode vs Jordan etc types in office now
RNC is a blockage