While this kind of grift has been and will always be part of the human condition, unfortunately it continues in the Truther Movement which is really sad, given that the stakes are the future of the greatest country in world history, along with Western Civilization.
Vice catered to a hipster demographic, no different from how MSNBC caters to latte liberals and Fox caters to conservative Baby Boomers. I wasn't part of that demo, so I didn't like what Vice had to offer. Look for a great video of late New York Times columnist David Carr skewering Vice's sensationalistic, style-over-substance approach.
Yet I can't bring myself to celebrate Vice's downfall, because the same factors that led to it are forcing cutbacks at better, more established media companies like the Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and LA Times. Like Vice, those companies bet big on Facebook and lost big when Facebook turned away from news and young audiences started consuming media through influencer-dominated channels like podcasts, TikTok and Instagram.
These trends don't just hurt flimsy companies like Vice. They damage high-quality media sources and hurt our culture's ability to connect on a meaningful level and build consensus on solving society's problems.
Well, kinda? You may not be too surprised that I find the downfall of our established media not-so-coincidentally tied to their abdication of basic journalistic principles. (I'm not really including local newspapers in this, since they got swamped by the digital wave more than anythiing.)
And Vice was really a factor of them always being valued 10-20x their real value, kind of like Pets.com in the '00s.
I still maintain that the decline of traditional media has more to do with technology than bias or lack of journalistic principles though. Because look where audiences have turned: infotainment, influencers, social media personalities, podcasters, purveyors of outraged hot takes. Not exactly bastions of traditional journalistic principles.
Young news consumers are just following technological trends and riding the wave of cultural fragmentation. If anything they're craving more bias, not less.
Thanks for offering a forum where we can agree or disagree respectfully, Ken. All the best.
I kind of want to read the article on why men traumatize women with poop. It sounds like an interesting study. (Kidding)
While this kind of grift has been and will always be part of the human condition, unfortunately it continues in the Truther Movement which is really sad, given that the stakes are the future of the greatest country in world history, along with Western Civilization.
Go woke go broke. Good riddance to them.
Vice catered to a hipster demographic, no different from how MSNBC caters to latte liberals and Fox caters to conservative Baby Boomers. I wasn't part of that demo, so I didn't like what Vice had to offer. Look for a great video of late New York Times columnist David Carr skewering Vice's sensationalistic, style-over-substance approach.
Yet I can't bring myself to celebrate Vice's downfall, because the same factors that led to it are forcing cutbacks at better, more established media companies like the Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and LA Times. Like Vice, those companies bet big on Facebook and lost big when Facebook turned away from news and young audiences started consuming media through influencer-dominated channels like podcasts, TikTok and Instagram.
These trends don't just hurt flimsy companies like Vice. They damage high-quality media sources and hurt our culture's ability to connect on a meaningful level and build consensus on solving society's problems.
Well, kinda? You may not be too surprised that I find the downfall of our established media not-so-coincidentally tied to their abdication of basic journalistic principles. (I'm not really including local newspapers in this, since they got swamped by the digital wave more than anythiing.)
And Vice was really a factor of them always being valued 10-20x their real value, kind of like Pets.com in the '00s.
And yes, that Carr interview was one of the greatest slapdowns I've seen in my life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLmkec_4Rfo&ab_channel=AudenRaybourn
Two other fun Vice mocking videos, both by comedian Ryan Long. Both hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM7bMe-eDao&ab_channel=RyanLong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7CxM1anfPE&ab_channel=RyanLong
Agree, the Carr video is priceless!
I still maintain that the decline of traditional media has more to do with technology than bias or lack of journalistic principles though. Because look where audiences have turned: infotainment, influencers, social media personalities, podcasters, purveyors of outraged hot takes. Not exactly bastions of traditional journalistic principles.
Young news consumers are just following technological trends and riding the wave of cultural fragmentation. If anything they're craving more bias, not less.
Thanks for offering a forum where we can agree or disagree respectfully, Ken. All the best.
Saw one Vice serial While the Rest of US die about how elites control the globe
Otherwise saw no other Vice docuserials
Serial explained how elites have bunkers But we have Zero for nuclear war